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Simulacra and simulation french9/7/2023 We are ‘against’ the war because it is not our war. France chose not to send soldiers to Iraq, which has real meaning for countless individual soldiers, for their families and for the state.Īh, yes. It’s to insist on the French as an exception, but there is no French exception.ĭS Hardly. When Jacques Chirac says ‘No!’ to Bush about the Iraq war, it’s a delusion. It’s a game.ĭS When you say ‘we’, who are you talking about? In your new book, The Conspiracy of Art, you are pretty hard on this country.įrance is a by-product of American culture. What we want is to put the rest of the world on the same level of masquerade and parody that we are on, to put the rest of the world into simulation, so all the world becomes total artifice and then we are all-powerful. What is freedom? We have a choice between buying one car or buying another car? It’s a simulation of freedom.ĭS So you don’t think that the US invaded Iraq to spread freedom? France is just a country America is a concept.ĭS Are you saying that America represents the ideal of democracy?ĭS At 76, you are still pushing your famous theory about ‘simulation’ and the ‘simulacrum’, which maintains that media images have become more convincing and real than reality.Īll of our values are simulated. Even if there were no Americans living in the United States, there would still be America. America is constituted by ethnic communities, and though they may compete with one another, America is still America. Yes, in America there is more of a history of immigration. Many of us here were surprised last year when the French government banned hijabs, head scarves, and other religious emblems from public schools. Our organic sense of identity as a country has been split.ĭS Perhaps that was inevitable. For a long time, it was a relatively friendly coexistence or cohabitation, but the French haven’t done much to integrate the Muslims, and there is a split now. An interview between Jean Baudrillard and Deborah Solomon (DS)ĭS As one of France’s most celebrated philosophers, can you give us any insight into the civil discontent that is pitting a generation of young people against the rest of the country?
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